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#41 Pericles

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 04:55 PM

OK, You are the only wise man and all other hybrid owners are pound foolish. unfortunately, that could be vice versa :P

See, you are using the tactic in your document - I firstly said majority, not all, but you have taken it as all hybrid owners.

And where the hell did you come up with "You are the only wise man"? If I'm representing an anti-hybrid crowd like you claim, then shouldn't that imply the whole crowd? That tactic of going personal and obscuring what was said was in your document too. Looks like the PRO-Prius lobby wants to use that too. :rolleyes: I say whats sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, so I will use it if I feel like it.

BTW, you will note something. This document, like you, makes a lot of points on "It will change" etc. The future. That has no bearing on the NOW. When we started having these discussion when the tax cut came, we said, not now, give it about 6 months. 6 months later, its still not a great situ. So we can still say, wait a little longer, its not quite ready yet. See, we are being responsible, where YOU are trying to trying to market the thing hoping that the market condition will create the infrastructure you need. That is not responsible, coz if it fails, it means you are pulling people into the pit with you.

See your assumptions? There "should be" 10,000+ now. But you will boldly state it as a fact and say there are 10,000 people who can't be wrong. Without even knowing for a fact. An assumption. Hoping the condition will be met in the future so you can in the future say, I am right.

Disgusting.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:39 PM

LOL. :lol: I knew you would interprete this wrong, I realised only after I posted it.
What I really meant was to share the experience of maintenance cost of your Car. Not the BILL! :P


It will still pucker up your chocolate starfish machang... you better stick to fairytale Fuel figures and cheap maintenance costs of the 'Prius'... :)

Believe me, don't buy Euros that are 15 years old... :)

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:33 PM

It will still pucker up your chocolate starfish machang... you better stick to fairytale Fuel figures and cheap maintenance costs of the 'Prius'... :)

Believe me, don't buy Euros that are 15 years old... :)


So you agree with me machang? :rolleyes:

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:35 PM

this new wave of trolls is pretty annoying.............


and what are you?

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:00 PM

BTW, I hope you read that document. Seems more applicable to you, who seems determined to argue on the grounds that hybrid=Prius.


Please see thread title. Opener intended to go for 2008 Prius.

Did you see me say anything against that Panamera hybrid?


So, you are saying, if someone wants to buy a hybrid car.He should go for Panamera hybrid. Pan barinam cake kapalla ;)

See, you are using the tactic in your document - I firstly said majority, not all, but you have taken it as all hybrid owners.


Thanks for read Anti-Hybrid analysis. hope now you have more weapons to use against hybrids :D

Machan Pericles, stop these nonsense. if you don't like Prius, that is your choice. You have to say "I personally don't like Prius because ... " don't try to screw things up and express wrong image regarding hybrid cars.

See what opener asking, He came here because, he wants to buy 2008 Prius and he had to think twice about his decision due to scary rumors floating around. he asked a help... his primary choice was Prius. what you guys are doing?

As a responsible member in a public forum, you should have to explain pros and cons about Prius/Allion and help him to take wise decision. Responsibility gone wild :ninja: conflicting with me and trying to say Prius is bad, majority prius owners are stupid. :angry-smiley-024: but you have no facts on you hand to say why it is bad, are you?

Edited by lkgamage, 12 July 2011 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:22 PM

Mate, do you think Prius is something like "Pathola Massa"? No, It is not a toy. It is proven technology that is running over 14 years on roads.

Take a look at this. http://www.themotorr...-million-klicks
"According to Vic Johnston, Toyota's manager of hybrid sales and fleet strategy, these are the only two Prius' in Australia that have even needed a battery replacement at all, since its arrival on our shores in 2001."

Also, I've recently chat with USA prius owner (who own Gen 1 Prius since 2002 Aug.) She got 300,000 miles with original battery (and still in place) http://www.facebook....81987248&type=1

If you want to see how reliable it is, pls go to priuschat.com there are 200,000 miles club and 300,000 miles club. talk to them, ask them how many owners replaced HV battery, how many of those did other costly maintenance/part replacements. Don't believe rumors!

When i park my car somewhere in town (Kurunegala) some people coming next to me and asking about the car, that happens often. Their first question is "meke petrol wada karanawa hodai neda, kochchra withara wada karanawada?" , you know their 2nd question, "Battery eka ganan neda?" some people know how much it cost :huh: next, "battery eken kochchra dura yanna puluwan da? 5 - 10 km??" if i said, less than 2km, "oh, ehemada???" if i asked how do you know about this car? 95% guys saying "mage yaluwek kiwwe". :action-smiley-060:

That is the only thing average people know about hybrids, that is the only thing they heard about hybrid as well as only thing they saying to others. so, i have to explain what is hybrid, how it works, how it save fuel, how reliable it is. if i had time (and thought worth it) i'm showing them how it is work. finally their response is "shaaa.. patta baduwak ne. yaluwa mata kiwwe ganna nam epa, battery eka replace karanna wenawa kiyala"

I think, AL members have much knowledge than average people.


Thanks for enlightening me dude. So according to you, Prius is an infallible piece of machinery.

Since they have been exposed to terrible roads, extreme weather and harsher driving conditions in USA and Australia (compared to Sri Lanka) and they have withstood over 300,000 miles, there will be absolutely no problems with any of the Priuses here for the next 10 years.... or maybe even 50 years!

And since the product recalls Toyota comes up with every 6 months for Prius, works perfectly in Sri Lanka, even if there were teeny weeny problems, it will not affect the users. (FYI there were 28 product recalls for various models of Prius during the last 10 years 2001-2011).

So let's suggest the OP to get a Prius.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:53 PM

So you agree with me machang? :rolleyes:


Dude, even if I have to push a 15 year old Euro down the road, I will never be a Prius driver like you.
And no, there was never anything for us to agree on.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:56 PM

Thanks for enlightening me dude. So according to you, Prius is an infallible piece of machinery.

Since they have been exposed to terrible roads, extreme weather and harsher driving conditions in USA and Australia (compared to Sri Lanka) and they have withstood over 300,000 miles, there will be absolutely no problems with any of the Priuses here for the next 10 years.... or maybe even 50 years!

And since the product recalls Toyota comes up with every 6 months for Prius, works perfectly in Sri Lanka, even if there were teeny weeny problems, it will not affect the users. (FYI there were 28 product recalls for various models of Prius during the last 10 years 2001-2011).

So let's suggest the OP to get a Prius.


Does terrible roads, extreme weather and harsher driving condition effect to battery life? if so, how?

Do you know what is "product recall"? and why Toyota recall products? also, search for "Axio recall" and "Corolla Recall" since they are proven technology on our roads.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:06 PM

Dude, even if I have to push a 15 year old Euro down the road, I will never be a Prius driver like you.
And no, there was never anything for us to agree on.


Yes you are right. In SL Prius is not for the weak minded.

Edited by rover, 12 July 2011 - 10:10 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:11 PM

So, you are saying, if someone wants to buy a hybrid car.He should go for Panamera hybrid. Pan barinam cake kapalla ;)

Dude, you don't to try to prove that you're stupid. We already know. Nowhere have I recommended of said buy a Panamera. If thats what you understood from what I said, well, you shouldn't waste time trying to interact with people.

Thanks for read Anti-Hybrid analysis. hope now you have more weapons to use against hybrids :D

Machan Pericles, stop these nonsense. if you don't like Prius, that is your choice. You have to say "I personally don't like Prius because ... " don't try to screw things up and express wrong image regarding hybrid cars.

See what opener asking, He came here because, he wants to buy 2008 Prius and he had to think twice about his decision due to scary rumors floating around. he asked a help... his primary choice was Prius. what you guys are doing?

As a responsible member in a public forum, you should have to explain pros and cons about Prius/Allion and help him to take wise decision. Responsibility gone wild :ninja: conflicting with me and trying to say Prius is bad, majority prius owners are stupid. :angry-smiley-024: but you have no facts on you hand to say why it is bad, are you?

All well and good, but I didn't contribute to this conversation to say the OP shouldn't buy a Prius. I just said your "10,000" people argument is stupid. YOU are the one who is talking about a Prius. I personally don't care. Its his money. I've already said I don't like the Prius, I don't need to keep repeating it. BUT I also know just coz its not for me, it doesn't mean its the solution for others. I just think it needs more time.

But YOU are the one who seems to think that just because I pointed out that YOU had a dumb argument, I was talking against a Prius. I was not. I was just saying YOU had a dumb argument. If you still can't understand that, well, that just makes it seem like the argument isn't the only thing thats dumb.

This is really not interesting. Can't you find somewhere else to go pollute?

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 10:58 PM

Pericles,

I said 10,000 people can't be wrong. Still i'm saying. It is valid until you (or someone else) break my argument with acceptable reason/s.

You said you dislike hybrids, you dislike prius, than again said you haven't said anything against Panamera hybrid. so, what we can think about it? If i said "I'll meet you when i come to visit zoo" ooops, i didn't meant to say you are in zoo, but Dehiwala. but others may take it wrongly :unsure: sorry! that is what i got from you comments.

i don't want to fight with you or others. what i'm saying is,

1. Prius is not a bad car at all.
2. It has better handing and good ride quality. It also give you decent acceleration whenever required
3. If someone want to race on the roads and love hybrids, consider Honda Insight
4. Toyota Lanka doesn't support for Prius yet, but you can get regular maintenance done by them. Also you can find good places to checkup hybrid system health and even get done small maintenance
5. Don't listen to rumors, HV battery made to last for vehicle lifetime, at least 10 years, if you buy 2007 prius, you can run at least 6 years without any problem. who know what happens at that time.
6. Car is reliable just like other Toyota cars. If JDM Premios, Allions, Axios and Vits can run on our roads, why Prius can't? It doesn't made with rocket science.
7. Prius Gen 2 works 20km/l - 24km/l depending on your driving style.
8. It has decent cargo space as well as leg space in rear seats. That give comfort ride for your family members.
9. Nice to use as a family car or daily long distance ride.
10. If you got any problem with you car, go to Toyota Lanka first. They will consult you what to do. Don't let others to play around and use car as a learning materiel.

Edited by lkgamage, 12 July 2011 - 10:59 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2011 - 11:51 PM

Pericles,

I said 10,000 people can't be wrong. Still i'm saying. It is valid until you (or someone else) break my argument with acceptable reason/s.

Already done. Large groups of people do stupid things all the time.

You said you dislike hybrids, you dislike prius, than again said you haven't said anything against Panamera hybrid. so, what we can think about it?

I said I dislike the Prius, not that I dislike hybrids. You don't need to engage in the unfamiliar act of thinking. I'll be even more specific, I dislike the second gen second hand Prius that have flooded in. I have said it very clearly, so you don't need to hurt yourself trying to think about it.

If i said "I'll meet you when i come to visit zoo" ooops, i didn't meant to say you are in zoo, but Dehiwala. but others may take it wrongly :unsure: sorry! that is what i got from you comments.

And that is why I think your stupid. Next time, learn to listen or read what people say, don't imagine bullshit. It is this imagining bullshit habit of yours that means no one can trust what you say, and really shouldn't listen to you.

Also

2. It has better handing

Than what? A Maruti? "Better" is a comparison, you can't take just one thing and say it is "better".

See? No ability to understand or express yourself. Simply put, there is no reason to listen to someone like you.

Edited by Pericles, 12 July 2011 - 11:53 PM.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:14 AM

Pericles,

I said 10,000 people can't be wrong. Still i'm saying. It is valid until you (or someone else) break my argument with acceptable reason/s.

You said you dislike hybrids, you dislike prius, than again said you haven't said anything against Panamera hybrid. so, what we can think about it? If i said "I'll meet you when i come to visit zoo" ooops, i didn't meant to say you are in zoo, but Dehiwala. but others may take it wrongly :unsure: sorry! that is what i got from you comments.

i don't want to fight with you or others. what i'm saying is,

1. Prius is not a bad car at all.
2. It has better handing and good ride quality. It also give you decent acceleration whenever required
3. If someone want to race on the roads and love hybrids, consider Honda Insight
4. Toyota Lanka doesn't support for Prius yet, but you can get regular maintenance done by them. Also you can find good places to checkup hybrid system health and even get done small maintenance
5. Don't listen to rumors, HV battery made to last for vehicle lifetime, at least 10 years, if you buy 2007 prius, you can run at least 6 years without any problem. who know what happens at that time.
6. Car is reliable just like other Toyota cars. If JDM Premios, Allions, Axios and Vits can run on our roads, why Prius can't? It doesn't made with rocket science.
7. Prius Gen 2 works 20km/l - 24km/l depending on your driving style.
8. It has decent cargo space as well as leg space in rear seats. That give comfort ride for your family members.
9. Nice to use as a family car or daily long distance ride.
10. If you got any problem with you car, go to Toyota Lanka first. They will consult you what to do. Don't let others to play around and use car as a learning materiel.


1. Pri-ass, better handling :D compared to a 3 wheel, yes,
2. There is a reason why Toyota lanka doesn't support Prius. its coz of its High Maintainence Cost

The Hybrids main target is to save the earth. with its Eco friendliness
but do you realize that when disposing the battery
it cause MORE damage to the environment than it saves.
that freaking thing is made out of Nickel Cadmium. this is a seriously bad substance for the environment.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:30 AM

Already done. Large groups of people do stupid things all the time.

I said I dislike the Prius, not that I dislike hybrids. You don't need to engage in the unfamiliar act of thinking. I'll be even more specific, I dislike the second gen second hand Prius that have flooded in. I have said it very clearly, so you don't need to hurt yourself trying to think about it.

And that is why I think your stupid. Next time, learn to listen or read what people say, don't imagine bullshit. It is this imagining bullshit habit of yours that means no one can trust what you say, and really shouldn't listen to you.

Also

Than what? A Maruti? "Better" is a comparison, you can't take just one thing and say it is "better".

See? No ability to understand or express yourself. Simply put, there is no reason to listen to someone like you.


Machan, you are again showing your disgusting anti-hybrid behaviors. Trying to attack by person and make him silence, like you guys did for Rover :angry-smiley-024: I don't want to take your character certificate, People know who is stupid and who is wise. I don't want you to listen to me. just get the facts and prove it rather than saying useless blah blah...

We were talking about 2008 prius, it is a mid size econbox. Everyone in here know that. When we compare cars, we'd take cars in same class. Edirishighe already told us, His Prius (2008) is better than his previous Axio. Search on the net, you will find Prius Gen 2 reviews that compare with other same class cars. I don't know how you got Maruti to compare with Prius. Is that what your imagine level? Readers may think what a .......... oh. next time get a better reason to attack me.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:41 AM

1. Pri-ass, better handling :D compared to a 3 wheel, yes

Be careful friend. Richard peris will hire you as a consultant.

2. There is a reason why Toyota lanka doesn't support Prius. its coz of its High Maintainence Cost

No. reason is, they still don't have trained human resources. They (even we) didn't think about rapid growth of Prius market in SL. Do you think, japan can produce trained human resources in just two weeks? or months? Good for you.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 12:50 AM

Be careful friend. Richard peris will hire you as a consultant.


look dude, i have driven a 2008 pri-ass around my neighborhood of one of my neighbor
its not soooo super handling or anything for me.

No. reason is, they still don't have trained human resources. They (even we) didn't think about rapid growth of Prius market in SL. Do you think, japan can produce trained human resources in just two weeks? or months? Good for you.


well its been more than weeks hasnt it :), and if they REALLY wanna do it, why didnt they bring them down from japan (human resources)?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:09 AM

look dude, i have driven a 2008 pri-ass around my neighborhood of one of my neighbor
its not soooo super handling or anything for me.


Did you ever drive Axio, 121 , Allion? May be that is true for you. It doesn't make sense for three wheel drivers :action-smiley-060:

well its been more than weeks hasnt it :), and if they REALLY wanna do it, why didnt they bring them down from japan (human resources)?


You have lot of things to learn brother. It is not practical for business. If you want more info, call Toyota Lanka and ask why they don't bring Japanese team to maintain hybrids.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:10 AM

Machan, you are again showing your disgusting anti-hybrid behaviors. Trying to attack by person and make him silence, like you guys did for Rover :angry-smiley-024: I don't want to take your character certificate, People know who is stupid and who is wise. I don't want you to listen to me. just get the facts and prove it rather than saying useless blah blah...

We were talking about 2008 prius, it is a mid size econbox. Everyone in here know that. When we compare cars, we'd take cars in same class. Edirishighe already told us, His Prius (2008) is better than his previous Axio. Search on the net, you will find Prius Gen 2 reviews that compare with other same class cars. I don't know how you got Maruti to compare with Prius. Is that what your imagine level? Readers may think what a .......... oh. next time get a better reason to attack me.

Dunno if you noticed, but rover is still around and commenting. You might be mistaking him with Cali, maybe? :rolleyes: Showing a real inability to keep grasp of facts there, genius.

And shutting people up isn't anti-hybrid behaviour. It's anti Stupid behaviour. Specially in relation to you.

Also, sorry, your criteria is better handling than an Axio? That doesn't really take much doing. You want to try saying its handling is good among its class, you need to look at the Mazda3s and FD Civics.

Not to mention you yourself, in the next point (3) goes that the Insight is better for those who race on the roads. Isn't that because the Insight handles better? Aren't you shooting yourself in the foot? Are you too stupid to understand that? I'm gonna guess you are.

Learn this well. Toyota isn't interested in making cars that handle well. Thats not their party trick, thats not their selling point. So stop being a dumbass. You're wrong. Again.

No. reason is, they still don't have trained human resources. They (even we) didn't think about rapid growth of Prius market in SL. Do you think, japan can produce trained human resources in just two weeks? or months? Good for you.


And the reason it takes so long to train them is coz its not rocket science and it can be repaired in any roadside garage, huh? :lol: Shooting yourself in the foot again. Ah well. To paraphrase you "Readers may think what a .......... oh. next time get a better reason sell your cars.

I could know nothing about cars, but it would still be easy to see you're full of crap.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:14 AM

You have lot of things to learn brother. It is not practical for business. If you want more info, call Toyota Lanka and ask why they don't bring Japanese team to maintain hybrids.


You really have to stop trying to present the things you assume as facts. Its all just IN YOUR MIND.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:53 AM

Pericles,

I don't want to answer you all craps.

But for #3, I suggest Honda insight because it has good acceleration than Prius.

Regarding training, lets drop rocket science,can you follow a good computer diploma course within 3 months? I'm not talking about a diplomas at petti kade institute. in reputed institute or uni. so, what else you are talking about advance technology course? do you think it is practical to bring Japanese team here and pay them 6 figure salary for maintain hybrids. specially, trouble free Prii :action-smiley-060:

I'm not talking about the thing in my MIND. this is what i asked when i went to service my car at Toyota Lanka.

dude, dealer backup problem is the only one tool in your hand to fight with Prius. If that isn't a problem for other prius owners, why you take it as a serious matter?

Opener, Happy purchase! See you on the road in a Prius!