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#1 GTAm

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:02 PM

Just started my most ambitious resto project todate. It's a 1970's Alfa Romeo 2000 Berlina. Neglected very badly for many many years the body has rusted to a point that is scary.
I originally bought the car for its parts for my Giulia Coupe and even used some bits for my Alfetta GTV.

I was thinking of scrapping it many times but I could not get someone to come and dismantle it.

However recently my tinker who "retired" after completing my 3 Alfas called me and said he might be interested in doing some work again. I showed him this car and to my surprise he said that it could be saved. I was still quite skeptical though when I thought about the cost and effort required. I slept on it for a few weeks.

The more I thought about it though, it was hard to scrap this car for several reasons.

1. It's a classic Alfa Romeo - I mean just how many survivors are around in this country? You can count them with your fingers.

2. Although not a great looking car by Alfa standards, it's an inoffensive 132 bhp 5 speed Sedan with a glorious engine and gearbox.

3. This particular car has some good race history in this country.

4. Almost every fitting and trim bits are intact.

5. I'm a bit mad :lol:

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:09 PM

Hell this sounds like an intresting project!!! Good luck

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:30 PM

Two thumbs up for deciding to bring it back to life. Please capture as much photos as possible and share with us.
Good luck!

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:39 PM

Good luck GTAm :) That sounds like quite the ambitious project.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:45 PM

I salute you. Mine's going through a bad menstrual period these days... :(

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 05:56 PM

Nice! Good luck GTAm!...AL just got a lot more interesting.An Alfa and a Triumph,two very worthy ladies being brought back to life.We should do a run somewhere when they are both done...meet up at the next sunday run?Got lots to catch up on.BTW let me know when the ICE club trackday is happening please...
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:19 PM

hats off to you GTAm and good luck with your restoration.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:35 PM

Nice to see old gems like these brought back to life. weren't these the police cars they had in the original italian job?

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:40 PM

good luck dude ,it is quite an ambitious project i must admit but im sure you can do it

where do you get parts for this? i assume you cant buy any in SL

As someone pointed out AL has indeed become alive these days with restorations !

Just started my most ambitious resto project todate. It's a 1970's Alfa Romeo 2000 Berlina. Neglected very badly for many many years the body has rusted to a point that is scary.
I originally bought the car for its parts for my Giulia Coupe and even used some bits for my Alfetta GTV.

I was thinking of scrapping it many times but I could not get someone to come and dismantle it.

However recently my tinker who "retired" after completing my 3 Alfas called me and said he might be interested in doing some work again. I showed him this car and to my surprise he said that it could be saved. I was still quite skeptical though when I thought about the cost and effort required. I slept on it for a few weeks.

The more I thought about it though, it was hard to scrap this car for several reasons.

1. It's a classic Alfa Romeo - I mean just how many survivors are around in this country? You can count them with your fingers.

2. Although not a great looking car by Alfa standards, it's an inoffensive 132 bhp 5 speed Sedan with a glorious engine and gearbox.

3. This particular car has some good race history in this country.

4. Almost every fitting and trim bits are intact.

5. I'm a bit mad :lol:



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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:19 AM

Just started my most ambitious resto project todate. It's a 1970's Alfa Romeo 2000 Berlina. Neglected very badly for many many years the body has rusted to a point that is scary.
I originally bought the car for its parts for my Giulia Coupe and even used some bits for my Alfetta GTV.

I was thinking of scrapping it many times but I could not get someone to come and dismantle it.

However recently my tinker who "retired" after completing my 3 Alfas called me and said he might be interested in doing some work again. I showed him this car and to my surprise he said that it could be saved.


Bugger retired off your three restoration projects and now wants a forth as he's got another kid to put through college? :D

Jokes aside: Kudos to you for taking on the project. Please keep us updated via pictures and write-ups whenever you have time.

All the best.
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Edited by Kavvz, 30 June 2012 - 09:21 AM.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:54 AM

All the best mate!

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:42 PM

Nice! Good luck GTAm!...AL just got a lot more interesting.An Alfa and a Triumph,two very worthy ladies being brought back to life.We should do a run somewhere when they are both done...meet up at the next sunday run?Got lots to catch up on.BTW let me know when the ICE club trackday is happening please...


Thanks MD. Yes we should do a run once they both come out of surgery. Actually your post on the TR resto is what led me to post this. I thought it'll keep me motivated.

ICE Club track day is on the 25th of August.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:50 PM

good luck dude ,it is quite an ambitious project i must admit but im sure you can do it

where do you get parts for this? i assume you cant buy any in SL

As someone pointed out AL has indeed become alive these days with restorations !



Carboy, sice I have experience with 03 rusty Italian projects before this I hope I am seasoned enough to last. I have a lot of confidence in my tinker, he's got natural talent. I always tell people that if he was born in Italy he would be working at Scaglietti! He's dead slow though, which is also good cause then my payment is spread out.

Parts - Nothing available here. I've located a bonnet and a boot lid in Oz and will be getting those down shortly. Mechanical parts are not an issue as they are common with the Giulia so everything is remanufactured and available from the UK, Italy and US. I usually buy from the UK although now with the Pound at 210/- bucks things are going to be tough.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:54 PM

Bugger retired off your three restoration projects and now wants a forth as he's got another kid to put through college? :D

Jokes aside: Kudos to you for taking on the project. Please keep us updated via pictures and write-ups whenever you have time.

All the best.
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In fact he has an above average number of kids considering his pontential income level. One of them very young, so he not just a great panel beater ;)

I gather the downturn in the economy (despite all those rosey numbers published by the cetral bank) is what made him come out of retirement. His elder kids are not able to give him the same support as before.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:11 PM

Nice to see old gems like these brought back to life. weren't these the police cars they had in the original italian job?


Those were Giulia Sedans. This was the replacement, larger but closely related. The Giulia sedans are more valuable. And these days are sought after for historic racing as their bodies are even more rigid that the Giulia coupe. The pick of the range is the limited production Ti Super which is lighter and more powerful and has some serious motorsport credentials. For example one came 5th overall in the 1963 Tour de France behind two Ferrari 250GTOs, and 250 Swb and a lightweight E-type. The Giulia Ti Super has only a 4 pot 1.6L engine!

I met the former owner of this car. He told me how competitive this car was when he raced it agaisnt more modern machinery. His favourite victory was at a Hill Climb in Kandy where he won against a Renault Fuego Turbo (driven by a race Meister) and a Isuzu Piazza Turbo. The technology is chronologically separated by over ten years apart from being turbo charged coupes against a four door sedan. Of course he now regrets selling the car.
"Alfa is a unique way of living and feeling a car. There is no definition that explains what Alfa really is. You can compare it with those irrational emotions, that sometimes have a human spirit, for which it is impossible to find a logical explanation. We are in the domain of feelings, passion, of things that are closer to a man's heart than his brain." - Orazio Satta Puglia

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 09:15 AM

Those were Giulia Sedans. This was the replacement, larger but closely related. The Giulia sedans are more valuable. And these days are sought after for historic racing as their bodies are even more rigid that the Giulia coupe. The pick of the range is the limited production Ti Super which is lighter and more powerful and has some serious motorsport credentials. For example one came 5th overall in the 1963 Tour de France behind two Ferrari 250GTOs, and 250 Swb and a lightweight E-type. The Giulia Ti Super has only a 4 pot 1.6L engine!

I met the former owner of this car. He told me how competitive this car was when he raced it agaisnt more modern machinery. His favourite victory was at a Hill Climb in Kandy where he won against a Renault Fuego Turbo (driven by a race Meister) and a Isuzu Piazza Turbo. The technology is chronologically separated by over ten years apart from being turbo charged coupes against a four door sedan. Of course he now regrets selling the car.


Now that's my kind of car. beating younger theoretically quicker cars with good handling.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:19 PM

Can't see the posts I put up yesterday. So here they are again. This is what the end result should look like.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:35 AM

Can't see the posts I put up yesterday. So here they are again. This is what the end result should look like.

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Sweet!...Our resident push bike enthusiast milindu will like this particular colour scheme too.. :lol:
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 08:20 AM

Sweet!...Our resident push bike enthusiast milindu will like this particular colour scheme too.. :lol:


Yeah. I was saying. The post seems to have gone missing.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:50 AM

It's a long long way from deciding on a colour but yes this dark blue looks good. The original colour was red but silver is also on my mind right now as I saw one in the UK and it looked great. But enough dreaming, better get back to reality ;)
"Alfa is a unique way of living and feeling a car. There is no definition that explains what Alfa really is. You can compare it with those irrational emotions, that sometimes have a human spirit, for which it is impossible to find a logical explanation. We are in the domain of feelings, passion, of things that are closer to a man's heart than his brain." - Orazio Satta Puglia