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#61 GTAm

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:33 PM

Now now GTAm, not all cars from the 70s rusted like no tomorrow :) I remember my dad's old KE20 from the late 1960s did not have a spec of rust when we sold her in 1988 :)

To be honest if this guy is such a good fabricator, you can put him to good use by becoming a body part supplier for these cars :) I'm sure there will be much demand from restorers all over the world. Pity he's a one man show.


Don I'm sure your dad would have kept the Corolla in tip top shape. But many 70's and early 80's Jap cars did rust badly. Remember how many Datsun 180B s, 6 and 7 sri Toyota Crowns were on our roads? We owned two cars from that era. A Mazda 808 and a Subaru Leone 1400. The 808 kept rusting on the doors and side valences. The Subaru was a real rust bucket. We did not have it for long because the way and the speed it rusted scared us. Early 80's Cedrics and Bluebirds have also vanished from our roads.
Peugeot 404s, VW Passats and W115 Mercs come to mind as other rust prone cars of the 70's. The Merc's rear structure is notorious and that make the boot droop down if you notice on poor condition cars you can see this. Do you also recall the Chrysler/Talbot hatch the Police used to have? Can't remember the model name now. Was it the Horizon? They've all disappear from the horizon too ;)
But none to beat the Italians for sure.

Alfa Suds and Lancia Beta's the at p1 and p2 :lol: . P3 - maybe the 131? Italian cars from the 50's and 60's were a much better. See the number of Fiat 1100s on the road.

Yes I've been thinking about getting this guy to fabricate Alfetta and Sud panels. I could get the exact blueprints from the Alfa Museum. Let's see once he comes out of Hell ;)
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:47 PM

Supra, I know people who have made the entire body locally for a very valuable car or a car that they are very attached to. So I know it's been done before.
Btw I already have a guy who wants to take this off me if ever I'm selling. :)


I was just going to say, add me to the waiting list as well.... If you're ever selling.

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#63 GTAm

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:00 AM

I was just going to say, add me to the waiting list as well.... If you're ever selling.


Will do Supral. I'll first get it into decent shape though - where people won't faint when they see it :D . Don't want to sound boastful but since I've gone through 3 already I know how hard it is and I think few people will endure the long drawn process of the body work. Mechanical work is relatively easier as almost every part is available brand new as this is Giulia based.

The only other classic I really want is a Fiat 600 Multipla. If I get that I might let this babe go.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:06 PM

and when you sell that multipla, consider me to be the first on the waitlist :smilie_liebe9:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:54 PM

Will do Supral. I'll first get it into decent shape though - where people won't faint when they see it :D . Don't want to sound boastful but since I've gone through 3 already I know how hard it is and I think few people will endure the long drawn process of the body work. Mechanical work is relatively easier as almost every part is available brand new as this is Giulia based.

The only other classic I really want is a Fiat 600 Multipla. If I get that I might let this babe go.


Are any of those babies in Sri Lanka (Fiat 600 Multipla)?

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:09 PM

Are any of those babies in Sri Lanka (Fiat 600 Multipla)?


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:12 PM

there are!
there's one in pristine condition, which is kept for display at the current fiat agent's showroom...
there was another with a lot of corrosion, up for sale in a local classifieds site sometime ago.
i guess there must be a few with the ICE club members

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:11 PM

Yes the pristine one is with a member of the ICE club. It was a one owner car used by the Trinity College warden. Master Don whose is that 4 sri car?

The one in the classified I've had a look at it before. The body had more filler than steel and they were quoting a ridiculous price.
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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:47 AM

Master Don whose is that 4 sri car?

Check your PM box...
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Posted 14 September 2012 - 06:49 PM

im not a fan of the Mulitpla GTAm but wish you well in your search!

Yes the pristine one is with a member of the ICE club. It was a one owner car used by the Trinity College warden. Master Don whose is that 4 sri car?

The one in the classified I've had a look at it before. The body had more filler than steel and they were quoting a ridiculous price.



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Posted 14 September 2012 - 07:04 PM

im not a fan of the Mulitpla GTAm but wish you well in your search!


Thanks carboy. The Multipla (pronounced "Mool-ti-pla" by the Italians) intregues me a great deal. When I was a kid I used to see one in the neighbourhood of one of my relatives. I thought it looks like some kind of Monster and actually was a bit terrified of it :lol: .
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 07:27 PM

Hell is showing tiny signs of frost at last. ;)

Went to see it after a relatively long time and was happy to see progress. The floor boards on the driver's side is completed and the passenger side is about 50% there.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:33 PM

GTAM, I had a look at your other pics as well, and while I'm impressed by the work of your bodywork man, I did notice the amount of rust around and think there still lays challenging times ahead! Good luck and keep us posted!

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:56 AM

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God...a dream buy...got more info? up for sale mate?

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:07 AM

GTAM, I had a look at your other pics as well, and while I'm impressed by the work of your bodywork man, I did notice the amount of rust around and think there still lays challenging times ahead! Good luck and keep us posted!


Yes indeed. This is why my original plan was to scrap the car. But since, there is now a big demand for classic Alfas in our circle alone and our Senor Scaglietti came out of retirement and said he can resurrect it I decided to give it a go. Having seen his previous work I am confident he'll deliver perfection. He's already spotted a change someone has made to the car previously. The rear wheel arch is supposed to be square, but on my car it has been rounded.

I actually first thought of turning it into my personally designed Classic Alfa Spider. This car shares the same underpinnings of the Duetto Spider/Giulias etc. So it is not so hard. However I later thought it might be a bridge too far and decided against it. And besides this car has a lot of Sri Lankan race history so turning it into a Spider would erase all that, which would be a waste of its pedigree.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:10 AM

God...a dream buy...got more info? up for sale mate?

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Checked up Miniace, he's sold it a long time ago :(
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:27 PM

Another visit on Saturday. The floor is more or less done if not yet dusted. :)

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And then it was time for another shocker. The guy had removed the panel adjacent to the firewall to reveal a shocking botch up by the previous tinker. Riveted pieces of sheet metal on the inside to cover the rust. Then glass wool :speechless-smiley-003: over that. And a mix of metal, rust and filler to top it all off.

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Now this means our man has to do a lot of temporary reinforcements before removing the wind screen and the whole scuttle is weaker than we anticipated.

Found the boot lid and the bonnet in Oz. They should arrive here next month.

On my previous visit I took large digital prints for the tinker to paste on his wall for reference. He immediately noticed a design change that my car seems to have under gone in the hands of a previous body artist. The rear wheel arches which needs to be square, has been "rounded". I really can't imagine why some of these tinkers do this and wonder how they get away.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

GTAM, if you can find bonnets and boot lids in good condition, are the panels not still in manufacture as well?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:04 AM

GTAM, if you can find bonnets and boot lids in good condition, are the panels not still in manufacture as well?


Alas not for this model Don. The Coupes and Spiders being more desirable they are the ones which have panels re-manufactured (buy specialists not by the company). Many of these Berlinas have been scavenged for parts for the above (that's the reason I bought this car initially) which has reduced the population dramatically. With Coupe and Spider prices steadily rising, the Berlinas have suddenly seen demand rise. But the population is too small I guess for new panels to be made.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:20 PM

Any progress with the mechanical side GTAm?Or are you concentrating on the tinkering only for now...
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-These people actually enjoy the frequent break-downs because it gives them an excuse to get under the damn thing" - Jeremy Clakson(1995)