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#1 LRDefender

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 11:25 AM

Guys,

Do you think the Toyota Hilux Surf (models after 1995) is a good option for a person who wants to do some decent off-roading and also use it as his day to day work horse as well???
Has anyone used it and if so what are the pros and cons of it.
And please please give me some good and trustworthy vehicle importers contact details in Sri Lanka. Trying to import a reconditioned Surf from Japan and is running into all sorts of trouble sad.gif



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Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:02 PM

I havn't use a surf.... bt as far as I have heard it seems to be a good evehical for off roading day to day work....But in the road there are only few SURFs can be seen...dnt knw y


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Posted 06 June 2010 - 12:29 PM

Hilux chassis so should be good - but the bulk of them around now on English plates have been locally assembled i believe mellow.gif
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 08:49 PM

HI

Surf's after 1995 is not a road runnner version, that was the older version.

Well I used a surf (well 2 one pre 95 and one 99 with the newer engine) for some time for the
same purpose as what you are looking for and below are my comments.

1. Day to day to work horse - yes it's a decent practical helpful vehicle.
but the decent off roading was bit poor as what I had was an auto, most of them are Auto.
Also, the 4WD selector is by a switch (not a manual diff lock). Switch works on a Solgnoid and if you don't use it
regularly the switch may not work properly, which actually happened to me and got stranded in the middle of
nowhere and Police came to my rescue.

2. Turning circle is bit poor for city traffic.
3. the 2.5 L turbo engine version pulling power was bit poor, the later version with teh 3 ltr engione was better

4. Fuel consumption on both was bit too high in city doing about 6-7 kmpl.

Other than that its a quite practical and bit more comfortable than the double cab.

As Devinda feels I believe most of the English numbered ones are locally assembled.



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Posted 06 June 2010 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Devinda_Z @ Jun 6 2010, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hilux chassis so should be good - but the bulk of them around now on English plates have been locally assembled i believe mellow.gif


@Devinda:
I was planing to go for the pre 95 model assembled at minuwangoda, but as Tikiri mentioned, I came to know about the poor pulling capability of the engine and decided to go for a 95-02 model. But would you believe that only 5 or 6 were imported to our beloved SL!! ohmy.gif Anyway i haven't seen one of them. Now i cant import them coz their manu. year is not within 3 years that is allowed into SL.

Anyway the reason i was going to go for a surf is that i gave up the idea of assembling a defender for myself. Would you believe that the going price for a defender in an army auction was around 2 MIL???!!!???$%#^ I couldn't believe!!! (the one Im mentioning had a chassis that was falling apart and the body was a heap of scrap metal)

@Tikiri: Thnax for the info mate

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 06:20 AM

QUOTE (LRDefender @ Jun 6 2010, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Devinda:
I was planing to go for the pre 95 model assembled at minuwangoda, but as Tikiri mentioned, I came to know about the poor pulling capability of the engine and decided to go for a 95-02 model. But would you believe that only 5 or 6 were imported to our beloved SL!! ohmy.gif Anyway i haven't seen one of them. Now i cant import them coz their manu. year is not within 3 years that is allowed into SL.

Anyway the reason i was going to go for a surf is that i gave up the idea of assembling a defender for myself. Would you believe that the going price for a defender in an army auction was around 2 MIL???!!!???$%#^ I couldn't believe!!! (the one Im mentioning had a chassis that was falling apart and the body was a heap of scrap metal)

@Tikiri: Thnax for the info mate

There was an article in the weekend papers about the people currently embroiled in the issue of not being able to register vehicles that have been purchased from the Minuangoda place!

Hmmm the Defender route is always a costly one - leave aside the chassis, the bits don't come cheap either.. mellow.gif

But you can get yourself a restored well running short wheel base "90" for that kind of money - pristine 110's are double that and will stretch all the way upto 6 Million or higher for new English plate original imports! - keeping mind that Bran new 110's will be well over the 15 Million mark afaik sad.gif
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 10:45 AM

Tikiri listed out most but to add a bit..

1. if u want decent offroading having a solid axle would be better than the ifs
2. u abso'ly need good mt tires for a hilux to make it a decnet offroader ..having a/t in a hilux may not be enf in some mud .. but having m/t for daily is a hassle

may i ask why a surf and not a d'cab?

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 10:56 AM

QUOTE (Devinda_Z @ Jun 7 2010, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There was an article in the weekend papers about the people currently embroiled in the issue of not being able to register vehicles that have been purchased from the Minuangoda place!

Hmmm the Defender route is always a costly one - leave aside the chassis, the bits don't come cheap either.. mellow.gif

But you can get yourself a restored well running short wheel base "90" for that kind of money - pristine 110's are double that and will stretch all the way upto 6 Million or higher for new English plate original imports! - keeping mind that Bran new 110's will be well over the 15 Million mark afaik sad.gif


Someone's selling a Defender in Halaawatha, complete with "snookles" on the AL classifieds for 5 million. Is this realistic (in our crazy price system, not in worldwide terms)?

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:13 AM

QUOTE (SeanD @ Jun 7 2010, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Someone's selling a Defender in Halaawatha, complete with "snookles" on the AL classifieds for 5 million. Is this realistic (in our crazy price system, not in worldwide terms)?


OT:
what i found even more amusing is the 32-0XXX defender thats selling which happens to have a YOM as 2002.

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Posted 07 June 2010 - 11:17 AM

QUOTE (SeanD @ Jun 7 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Someone's selling a Defender in Halaawatha, complete with "snookles" on the AL classifieds for 5 million. Is this realistic (in our crazy price system, not in worldwide terms)?

its unfair for me to comment as such but just judging by just the pictures it doesn't seem original - note that the YOM doesn't tally with the registration number.

Ideally a Brand New import on the 64- 65- plate & a 300 Tdi would be worth that kinda money though mellow.gif

Originality is what will determine the price in the long run - accessories can be added along the way for not a whole lot of money so its best to not get distracted by all the bells & whistles

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 08:44 PM

Guys be carefull if your'll are going for defenders...... Please check the book carefully since now all the Australian Model & Maleriya Model LRS were converted to Defenders with few modifications.....Before buing my Bj43 I checked out few.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 08:50 PM

Also, one of the main UK exporter to SL LR's in either container loads
or as cannibalized has got caught in the UK as most were stolen vehicles.

Police has cracked down on the last shipment and the team who was assembling
were raided by the Mirihana Police.

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (Tikiri @ Jun 8 2010, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, one of the main UK exporter to SL LR's in either container loads
or as cannibalized has got caught in the UK as most were stolen vehicles.

Police has cracked down on the last shipment and the team who was assembling
were raided by the Mirihana Police.

Are these the ones in Hyde Park?

It was rather blatant with the full bodied 110's on L plates
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Posted 08 June 2010 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE (3000cc @ Jun 8 2010, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys be carefull if your'll are going for defenders...... Please check the book carefully since now all the Australian Model & Maleriya Model LRS were converted to Defenders with few modifications.....Before buing my Bj43 I checked out few.

Agreed

Use a chassis no decoder for a start -


http://landroveronet...in_checker.cgi/
http://www.expeditio.....N Number.aspx

http://www.landrover...o.uk/page10.htm
http://www.motoverse...n/landRover.asp

that'll help find out exactly what on earth the machine started life off as... i've seen a fair number of patchwork jobs..
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 07:26 PM

No, not the Park Rd.


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Posted 09 June 2010 - 09:01 PM

& guys I found out few they were registered saying Leyland Rover instead of Land Rover......

Dnt knw how? One in Gam5 & 2 in Tissamaharama &1 in matara

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (Tikiri @ Jun 9 2010, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, not the Park Rd.

ah so then the N.M.W folks in Udahamulla? unsure.gif
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 07:28 AM

QUOTE (3000cc @ Jun 9 2010, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
& guys I found out few they were registered saying Leyland Rover instead of Land Rover......

Dnt knw how? One in Gam5 & 2 in Tissamaharama &1 in matara


Land Rover was sold to an Indian company. Not sure whether it is Tata or Leyland. But i dont think think have started as of yet. If they have, how come brand new landrovers ended up being in Tissamaharama and Matara and not in Colombo where there is a huge group of wanabe Land Rover owners. I smell a Frankenstein biggrin.gif

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 07:35 AM

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Land_Rover

This says Land Rover has been sold to Tata Motors India.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 11:23 PM

No machang these are old Maleriya Model jeeps which has come to Health Ministry...I think ...Book it says so.....May be a mistake from that end